tutorial??? - has anyone written one.

[manleystanley]

Been pulling my hair out trying to do a landscape. The only tutorial I can find is practicly wothless; it's only reasigning textures. For a couple of months now I have been trying to do a neibrohood play ground landscape, with playground equipment to fly through/around but it just keeps crashing FMS. Has someone or could someone write a good/new tutorial for this?

[ggunners]

manleystanley,

This is the only tutorial I know of....



Is it the same one?

-- ggunners

[manleystanley]

Yup, that's the one. Got so mad at my atempts at a landscape for FMS that I scraped the entire project. No matter what I did "Green hill kiddy park" crashed FMS. I think it may have been way too many objects.

Oh, ya. I keep forgetting to thank perry for that xyz prog it was helpful.

[phildc]

The restriction on number of objects is quite frustrating.
My landscape 'Death tower' that can be found on this forum is close to the maximum.

Philippe

Brussels Belgium

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[Perry]

You're welcome for FMSXYZ ...
Evidently there is a need for a good Landscaping tutorial
Nope I don't have one ... I've beat my brains against the wall too.
A few things may help that I've picked up here and there.
1. Do Not create triangles in your objects. It will crash FMS.
If you need to create a triangular piece, make a quad but pull the ends together, but don't join them. I discovered that even this crashes 8.3 if the ends are pulled too close. though I have been informed that problem has been taken care of and will be released with the next version. This triangle issue pertains only to Landscape objects.
2. Keep texture maps to a minimum .. too many will crash FMS. Sometimes you can work around this by including quads from different objects under the same texture map. This can tend to get messy and hard to edit, but there are ways to cope if you are determined to include more objects. The moral here is plan carefully.
These were my greatest frustrations in working with Landscaping ... hope it helps someone else.

[Guyon]

Well Perry,

The triangle tip is almost woth a tutorial in itself. It could save hours and hours of fixing a model.

[Perry]

I need to clarify that the triangle issue pertains only to Landscape objects.
From all I've seen when it comes to flying models, FMS uses triangles in your objects readily.
Don't ask me why the difference.

[phildc]

I think it's quite possible to get results!

The base, as already said:



There you will discover how maps fit, the coordinate system, aso.

Then look at my "death tower":



((and other standard landscapes, like Switzerland...))


It only uses the ground maps and trees. It is done for V7 (not tested under
Try modifying the position of one object at a time and learn...
I started with 16 ground maps numbered A1,A2,.... (big number painted on the bmp)

You need a text editor for the parms (.scn file)
An image editor for the bmp's: maps, heigths, sky)

be aware that you have to limit the number of objects (too many objects, or an object missing or misspelled immediately gives strange results)

and metasequoia if you do 3D objects like a building (keep this for later!)

Make good notes of what you discover, and I'm confident you will soon get results. And maybe you can write a tutorial for us all...

Philippe
Brussels

[phildc]

Any progress in landscape creation?

Philippe

[Spikestrip]

[phildc]

Spikestrip, I'm happy that you enjoyed the landscape and the model.

In fact, the 'combo' was designed for a challenge during an 'open door day' at our club. Points were given when the shadow of the plane was brought over the color dots and when flying thru the gate and the tower, within a limited lapse of time. The winner won his height in pepsi packs (pepsi was one of our sponsors, as you could see).

Phil.