hello fellows!
i would really like to get a model of this one, because i just built it. i'd also appreciate to know of any similar models existing.
technical details are: wingspan: 1300 mm
wingsurface: 35,2 dm2
weight: 1500 g
powered by: 2 speed 400; 9,6 V
CG: 155 mm towards front from rear wing edge
Picture:
www.robbe.co.nz/images/ products/Airliner.jpg
Thanx for any help on this guys!!
Maex
robbe airliner model #3038 wanted - where to get one? who could create it?
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by ggunners » Wed Sep 24, 2003 12:52 am
maex,
There are some folks who can build this for you but you'll need to provide a 3-view for them. It's the easyist way to generate a model.
You need to provide a side view, a front view and a top view all to the same scale. Photos would work if they're all taken from the same distance.
Here's a link to a sample model with a 3 view.
There are some folks who can build this for you but you'll need to provide a 3-view for them. It's the easyist way to generate a model.
You need to provide a side view, a front view and a top view all to the same scale. Photos would work if they're all taken from the same distance.
Here's a link to a sample model with a 3 view.
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by maex » Wed Sep 24, 2003 10:22 pm
hi!
i can provide photos of my robbe airliner via e-mail, if someone is interested in creating a fms-model for me.
i shot them today during the preflight period.
besides: the plane flew surprisingly well, bit of a hard landing, but i already managed to fix it.
thanx
maex
i can provide photos of my robbe airliner via e-mail, if someone is interested in creating a fms-model for me.
i shot them today during the preflight period.
besides: the plane flew surprisingly well, bit of a hard landing, but i already managed to fix it.
thanx
maex
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by ggunners » Thu Sep 25, 2003 5:51 pm
Maex,
I started with a 3 view of a Boeing 757 and adjusted it to resemble a couple pictures I saw on the E-zone forum.
Here's the link to the
I'm not sure how close it will look or fly, but give it a try and let me know. If you feel like adjusting the .par file for a more realistic flight, please do and send it back to me to include in the updated .zip file.
Hope you like it!
-- ggunners
I started with a 3 view of a Boeing 757 and adjusted it to resemble a couple pictures I saw on the E-zone forum.
Here's the link to the
I'm not sure how close it will look or fly, but give it a try and let me know. If you feel like adjusting the .par file for a more realistic flight, please do and send it back to me to include in the updated .zip file.
Hope you like it!
-- ggunners
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by maex » Thu Sep 25, 2003 8:57 pm
He thx
I just had a go with it. Its great man, and it realy looks close. Hope you got my photos. Sorry wouldent know how to adjust the par file(wouldent know which parameters ar which). I think the plain would have to "slip" off a bit more when flying on a steep angle. Its not dipping down as fast as the real one. allthough last time it dipped down(the real model) i was going down wind, so this might have to do with it, but still. power and reaction time are good. the way it looks and lies in the air is good too. I'm realy happy with it thanks. If you make any more adjustments let me know, so i can download and try. thx again
I just had a go with it. Its great man, and it realy looks close. Hope you got my photos. Sorry wouldent know how to adjust the par file(wouldent know which parameters ar which). I think the plain would have to "slip" off a bit more when flying on a steep angle. Its not dipping down as fast as the real one. allthough last time it dipped down(the real model) i was going down wind, so this might have to do with it, but still. power and reaction time are good. the way it looks and lies in the air is good too. I'm realy happy with it thanks. If you make any more adjustments let me know, so i can download and try. thx again
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by maex » Thu Sep 25, 2003 9:33 pm
oh..... i had my thermics turned up. without it it flyes nearly perfectly, like real moddel. still the real model does a bit more of that dipping forward on steep angle, but i will tell you after my next flight, then i can tell better
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by ggunners » Thu Sep 25, 2003 10:15 pm
Maex,
Here's what I changed.
0 1:Type(-) Type[0=Plane] RobbeAirliner from C-130
15 2:Tmax(N) Maximum Thrust
0.10 3:Drmax(rad) Maximun Rudder Angle
0.04 4:Demax(rad) Maxmim Elevator Angle
0.0005 5:Damax(rad) Maximim Aileron Angle
0.95 6:CLmax(-) Maximum Lift Coefficient
-0.95 7:CLmin(-) Minimum Lift Coefficient (was -0.40)
6.2 8:CLa(/rad) Lift Gradient
4 9:CLaSt(/rad) Lift Gradient in Stall
0.018 10:Cf(-) Drag Coefficient of Wing
0.03 11:CDb(-) Drag Coefficient of Fuselage
0.18 12:mug(-) Friction Coefficient of Wheels
0.46 13:dCDSt(-) Rise of Drag Coefficient in Stall (was .36)
-0.047 14:CM(-) Moment Coefficient
0.055 15:alpha0(rad) Wing Angle
1.8 16:b(m) Wing Span
0.26 17:c(m) Wing Chord
0.095 18:hce(m) Equivalent Center of Gravity
2.5 19:m(Kg) Mass
0.08 20:Ixx(Kg*m^2) Yaw Inertia Moment
0.04 21:Iyy(Kg*m^2) Pitch Inertia Moment
0.04 22:Izz(Kg*m^2) Roll Inertia Moment
0.0396 23:She(m^2) Effective Area of Stab
0.0195 24:Sfe(m^2) Effective Area of fin
0.52 25:Lt(m) Tail Moment Arm
0.001 26:VForm(-) Effect of Dihedral Angle
Either save this as your new .par file, edit the file or download it again. It tip stalls more, haven't taken aileron's off yet. Just set max aileron angle to zero. Your pictures were very large and I had to wait until later to download.
-- ggunners
Here's what I changed.
0 1:Type(-) Type[0=Plane] RobbeAirliner from C-130
15 2:Tmax(N) Maximum Thrust
0.10 3:Drmax(rad) Maximun Rudder Angle
0.04 4:Demax(rad) Maxmim Elevator Angle
0.0005 5:Damax(rad) Maximim Aileron Angle
0.95 6:CLmax(-) Maximum Lift Coefficient
-0.95 7:CLmin(-) Minimum Lift Coefficient (was -0.40)
6.2 8:CLa(/rad) Lift Gradient
4 9:CLaSt(/rad) Lift Gradient in Stall
0.018 10:Cf(-) Drag Coefficient of Wing
0.03 11:CDb(-) Drag Coefficient of Fuselage
0.18 12:mug(-) Friction Coefficient of Wheels
0.46 13:dCDSt(-) Rise of Drag Coefficient in Stall (was .36)
-0.047 14:CM(-) Moment Coefficient
0.055 15:alpha0(rad) Wing Angle
1.8 16:b(m) Wing Span
0.26 17:c(m) Wing Chord
0.095 18:hce(m) Equivalent Center of Gravity
2.5 19:m(Kg) Mass
0.08 20:Ixx(Kg*m^2) Yaw Inertia Moment
0.04 21:Iyy(Kg*m^2) Pitch Inertia Moment
0.04 22:Izz(Kg*m^2) Roll Inertia Moment
0.0396 23:She(m^2) Effective Area of Stab
0.0195 24:Sfe(m^2) Effective Area of fin
0.52 25:Lt(m) Tail Moment Arm
0.001 26:VForm(-) Effect of Dihedral Angle
Either save this as your new .par file, edit the file or download it again. It tip stalls more, haven't taken aileron's off yet. Just set max aileron angle to zero. Your pictures were very large and I had to wait until later to download.
-- ggunners
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