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Hey, good advise. I e-mailed the engineer of the Phoenix 2000 and his assistant told me they are still tweaking it. She talked to the engineer and emailed back again to get the Wilga-2000 floatplane. It is all debugged and can take off and land on grass, water, snow and runways! It has wheels and pontoons (for grass, snow, and water). I found it on ebay and bought it and a E-sky FHS simulator. Already have practiced on sim about 5 times but have a long way to go. Could anybody post some good free sim plane download web sites? The plane looks good and price was right, still have to put it together though. I hope to fly it yet this year. I had some other questions about how to get the best out of the FHS but I'll save them for later. Thanks to anybody, Bill.